{"id":289,"date":"2007-01-22T02:14:35","date_gmt":"2007-01-22T10:14:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.smontagu.org\/blog\/?p=289"},"modified":"2007-01-22T09:03:23","modified_gmt":"2007-01-22T17:03:23","slug":"de-trop","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.smontagu.org\/blog\/?p=289","title":{"rendered":"De trop"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/agmk.blogspot.com\/\">Ari Kinsberg<\/a> saw a poster in Jerusalem with a picture of a bottle of Johnny Walker and the caption <span lang=\"he\">\u05d9\u05b0\u05d4\u05d5\u05b9\u05e9\u05c1\u05bb\u0599\u05e2\u05b7\u0599<\/span>, i.e. &#8220;Joshua&#8221; in Hebrew with cantillation.<\/p>\n<p>He <a href=\"http:\/\/agmk.blogspot.com\/2007\/01\/johnny-walker-trop-and-unique-israeli.html\">says<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019m willing to bet that this is the only instance of [Hebrew with cantillation] in Israeli advertising.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I wonder just how much he is willing to bet, and would he up the stakes for an instance of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.berman.co.il\/images\/logo_inner_haaretz.jpg\">Hebrew with cantillation in a phrase which isn&#8217;t even a Biblical quotation<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"bold\">Update:<\/span> a <a href=\"http:\/\/agmk.blogspot.com\/2007\/01\/johnny-walker-trop-and-unique-israeli.html#116946169517385573\">commenter <\/a> on Ari&#8217;s blog notes that the human rights pressure group B&#8217;Tselem also use cantillation in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.btselem.org\/Shared\/Images\/Technical\/Hebrew\/Homepage\/aa_r1_c3.jpg\">their logo<\/a>. From a marketing point of view I think I understand why they do this: they are trying to make the point, on a subliminal level, that the values that they advocate are Jewish values rooted in the Torah. The bakery I linked to originally is probably aiming for something slightly different: using a Biblical style to suggest old-time, pre-industrial, healthy values. Ari&#8217;s original poster had me puzzled for a while, but I think I&#8217;ve got it: since apparently it&#8217;s advertising a bar in Ben Sira Street, maybe they chose the name of the bar as a reference to <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ben_Sira\">Joshua Ben Sira<\/a>, and using cantillation is a way of saying &#8220;Look! We are a bar named after an extracanonical biblical book&#8221;. (Naming your place of business as an oblique reference to your street address is not unusual in Israel: another example is Ginzberg in Ahad Ha`am Street, Tel Aviv).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ari Kinsberg saw a poster in Jerusalem with a picture of a bottle of Johnny Walker and the caption \u05d9\u05b0\u05d4\u05d5\u05b9\u05e9\u05c1\u05bb\u0599\u05e2\u05b7\u0599, i.e. &#8220;Joshua&#8221; in Hebrew with cantillation. He says: I\u2019m willing to bet that this is the only instance of [Hebrew with cantillation] in Israeli advertising. I wonder just how much he is willing to bet, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[3],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.smontagu.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/289"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.smontagu.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.smontagu.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.smontagu.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.smontagu.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=289"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.smontagu.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/289\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.smontagu.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=289"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.smontagu.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=289"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.smontagu.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=289"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}